Questions about SSD's and Hard Drives

[silberfuchs]

You need to delete all the partitions, then create a new one (NTFS), and re-start the formatting.

 

[tonythetiger]

I deleted the partition and made a new one but got the same error. Should I try formating this using a non 6gbps port and different cable? It seems like it won't format it in windows 7 either. As for the USB, I don't know where it is

 

[Telaso]

That shouldnt have anything to do with it. I suggest plugging it into another working computer if you can, and format it from there, then try again.

Probably too complicated though.

 

[tonythetiger]

That shouldnt have anything to do with it. I suggest plugging it into another working computer if you can, and format it from there, then try again.

Probably too complicated though.

I thought I had to format it with the mobo I was going to use.

 

[Telaso]

Well kind of, thats not a rule that has to be set in stone. The thing is that the drive is bad as it is now, so getting it formatted somewhere else that would succeed, would give it a higher chance to work on the way you are doing it now.

 

[tonythetiger]

Well it's installing now. At first I thought it failed again because it took less than a second. So it must be the Sata port or cable that's messed up. As for the other hard drive my computer still doesn't detect it and I will probably format that on the downstairs computer which is muh easier to open and swap hard drives

Edit: what program should I use to see if this SSD is damaged?

 

[Telaso]

You could run a chk disk on it from another computer, and if it fails over and over its bad.

 

[chalupa]

This seems like a lot of effort, Ton. Why don't you just kick back, rub one out, and smoke some pot instead?

 

[tonythetiger]

This seems like a lot of effort, Ton. Why don't you just kick back, rub one out, and smoke some pot instead?

A: the computer is busy transferring files and I do not want to risk losing almost .75 TB of porn.
B: I'm not horny right now.
C: I am not in possession of any pot.
D: I don't want to risk smoking pot with my current medication.

 

[silberfuchs]

Sorry I responded late. I've had exactly the same problem with other SATA drives before. It is very possible that the cable or port were the cause. I've even seen it with brand new cables, so don't just assume that they will always work.

Just about anything from Hiren's Boot CD should be able to check drives for damage. Crystal Disk Info is good for general information and SMART values. Other useful utilities include ExcelStor's ESTest, Hard Disk Sentinel, HDTune, HDAT2, or Victoria.

 

[Fero]

A: the computer is busy transferring files and I do not want to risk losing almost .75 TB of porn.
B: I'm not horny right now.
C: I am not in possession of any pot.
D: I don't want to risk smoking pot with my current medication.

Who the hell downloads porn in the era of streaming?

 

[tonythetiger]

Sorry I responded late. I've had exactly the same problem with other SATA drives before. It is very possible that the cable or port were the cause. I've even seen it with brand new cables, so don't just assume that they will always work.

Just about anything from Hiren's Boot CD should be able to check drives for damage. Crystal Disk Info is good for general information and SMART values. Other useful utilities include ExcelStor's ESTest, Hard Disk Sentinel, HDTune, HDAT2, or Victoria.

No need to apologize, it's not like I'm paying you guys.

Right now I'm installing drivers and updating windows. Just got done calling Microsoft after the windows 7 code wouldn't work on the computer. I really need to find a new computer case and possibly a new power supply as changing the cables and getting drives in and out isn't easy. All of the fans are molex connectors that are tied in the back while all the drives are Sata power connectors.

 

[tonythetiger]

Who the hell downloads porn in the era of streaming?

You can't find the high quality, 1080p 1920x1080 porn I got, muthafucka. To answer your question in one word: virgins

 

[tonythetiger]

I'm reading around that there is no need for SATA 3 cables. Is this true? Fucking newegg.

 

[silberfuchs]

It depends. If everything you've got supports it, there really isn't any reason to not use a SATA 3 cable; the cost difference isn't much. It can potentially allow twice the bandwidth over a SATA 2 connection.

What it comes down to is whether or not the device you're using can actually handle that speed. SATA 2 would max at 384MB/s, while SATA 3 768MB/s. SSDs are fairly straight-forward; they will usually list their max read/write speeds on their specifications as it is just the speed of the RAM controller. HDDs are much more complex; they vary way too much between whether you're reading/writing to the inner part of the spindle or the outside. Realistically, with a SATA 3 HDD you're only going to be reading a max of 160MB/s or writing 80MB/s under best conditions; far under the need for a SATA 3 cable.

So, the short answer to your question is this: Yes, it may be worth it if you're using an SSD. No, it is definitely not worth it for an HDD. Benchmarks show that performance difference is negligible between SATA2/3 cables, even with an SSD.

I would recommend that you run a benchmark yourself. Try using Roadkil's SpeedTest or Crystal Disk Info to test the speed using the two different cables. I'll be interested to see the results.

 

[tonythetiger]

K, I'm formating the 6gbps HDD now so I can transfer the porn and shit to it. It's been an hour or two and it's at 57% (it had like 700gb on it)

 

[silberfuchs]

Why are you using a low-level format instead of just a quick format? Unless you've got damaged sectors, a quick-format is enough.

 

[tonythetiger]

Why are you using a low-level format instead of just a quick format? Unless you've got damaged sectors, a quick-format is enough.

I figured since it had a ton of data I should do the full one. Guess I'll quick format the slow drive

 

[tonythetiger]

Well I just did a windows update on the computer, restarted, and got the BSOD. I went to windows repair and it views the SSD as local disk F, not C (which doesn't make sense because all of the other disks just contain media files). I'm going to try repartition, reformat, and reinstall windows on the SSD and see if that works. I guess now I have to reinstall all the drivers and programs that were on there too...

 

[silberfuchs]

Did you change your BIOS settings so that the SSD would be the first drive? That would be why it isn't showing as C. Also, did you replace the SATA cable for one you know works well?