Affirmative action for the 1%?

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Article makes some excellent points.

Some kids are given preference to admissions based on their birth, rather than their own merit. Legacy preference is supposedly there to encourage alumni to donate, but those donations are counted as charity so the alumni are getting a tax break and preferential treatment.

That doesn't seem any different than affirmative action based on race, or it could be seen as worse due to the tax break component of the whole relationship.


http://www.salon.com/2013/09/09/the_1_percents_ivy_league_loophole/
Legacy preference in college admission, or the practice of selecting the offspring of alumni over other qualified candidates, was originally a strategy developed to grandfather Jewish applicants out of admission. Though the policy’s intention has changed, it remains the reality that as American students head back to campus this fall, 10 to 25 percent of them do not deserve their spots. They’re “legacy admits,” the kids who got a boost via birth.

Quite a boost, in fact. In their 2005 paper, “The Opportunity Cost of Admission Preferences at Elite Universities,” Princeton scholars Thomas Espenshade and Chang Chung found that legacy status gives fortunate applicants the equivalent of an additional 160 points on the former 1600 point SAT scale. 160 points is no small adjustment; on the contrary, it’s the sort of improvement hopeful high schoolers bury their noses in books for. Yet it comes gratis to a set of students already privileged enough to be born to graduates of prestigious institutions.

Legacy preference seems to intensify in effect toward the upper end of university rankings, rendering entry into prestigious institutions with valuable resources and facilities especially daunting for poor students without alumni parents (or for first-generation applicants with no graduates in the family). Journalist Daniel Golden reports that nearly 90 percent of elite institutions calibrate their scales in favor of legacy status when weighing applicants against one another; as a result, numerous top-tier universities feature legacy acceptance rates far higher than overall acceptance rates. Legacy, in other words, is a sort of affirmative action for the wealthy, with fewer outraged news specials featuring tearful interviews of rejected candidates.

Less exclusive schools also consider legacy status in admissions. But of particular concern in the case of legacy admission in elite institutions is what a degree from it confers. There is, of course, the top-notch schooling, the access to programs, resources, and equipment that other schools cannot always afford, and ever-present “connections.” But through some combination of all those factors arises a path to power: research by Thomas Dye of the Lincoln Center for Public Service shows that 54 percent of America’s corporate leaders as well as 42 percent of our government officials are all graduates of just twelve institutions – Yale, Harvard, Princeton and Stanford among them. In 2003, Harvard accepted 40 percent of legacy applicants compared to an overall 11 percent acceptance rate; Princeton’s numbers are quite similar.

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For those looking to pass power and wealth down, legacy admission practices are a handy tool. Universities, who periodically masquerade as engines of social mobility, claim that legacy admission is merely a good business practice, necessary to coax their alumni to generously donate to their alma maters.

But if this is true, then alumni donations are not donations at all. Rather, they’re implicit transactions: alumni pay universities and receive additional admissions consideration for their children in return. That is the quid pro quo of the donation-legacy arrangement.

Yet, curiously, the Internal Revenue Service does not treat alumni donations as transactional payments. Instead, it treats them as charitable giving. As a result, alumni that make such donations are entitled to deduct the amount of their donation from their income for tax purposes. In so doing, the richest alumni receive a tax subsidy of forty percent of the amount of their donation. That is, the public ultimately funds as much as forty percent of any given legacy admissions payment.

Under most understandings of charity, it is not clear why any donation, alumni or otherwise, to an elite educational institution should be considered charitable. Top tier universities like Harvard and Princeton, although non-profits, charge high tuitions and enroll nearly 25 rich students per each poor student. In any non-educational context, few would call an organization with similar characteristics a charity. But the case for alumni donations being charitable is even thinner. Because alumni donations purchase improved admissions chances, they violate the most fundamental rule of charity, namely that it not enrich the giver.

In addition to being poor public policy, these charitable tax subsidies generate a disgustingly unjust spectacle. The vast majority of parents do not have an educational background that enables them to benefit from the donation-legacy system. Yet these parents are forced, through the tax code, to help fund alumni donations that intentionally militate against their own children’s chances of admission to the elite institutions they may otherwise be well qualified for. Children of poor parents in particular already endure extraordinary burdens competing against children of rich parents from elite universities; publicly financing the rigging of college admissions systems against poor children is yet another thumb on the scales against their success.

There is, of course, more to going to college than the education itself. Universities, especially elite ones with more than a little tarnish on their casually liberal consciences, tend to tout the aid they give and programs they provide for students from poor families, many of who are first-generation college students. A university education is intended to provide an opportunity for self-betterment, and for gainful employment of some kind. These promises are perhaps most appealing to the students they now seem least available to, who do not have connections to rely on for hiring, or inheritances or trust funds to look forward to for support. Legacy admissions represent more, then, than another conspiracy of the privileged: they’re quiet contracts built on broken promises.

In the days of Jewish quotas, students with lofty educational goals had little recourse when turned away from institutions they were well qualified to attend due to their heritage. Today’s legacy preference practices carry on another legacy of dreams hushed up, potential lost, and opportunity cut off. And now they do it on the public dime
 

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I think people should get in on merit and merit alone.

The only "bonus" I'm for is offering a boost to those who come from lower income families. If we were truly about building wealth for everyone, then we'd help those who need the boost get it.
 

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Legacy admissions are an interesting topic for me -- when I was applying I hated them, but now I don't mind the thought for my little buddy one day.

I knew a couple legacies who were actually really smart people; in fact, I knew more football players that shouldn't have been there than legacies.
 

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Legacy admissions are an interesting topic for me -- when I was applying I hated them, but now I don't mind the thought for my little buddy one day.

I knew a couple legacies who were actually really smart people; in fact, I knew more football players that shouldn't have been there than legacies.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that either. Sure, if they have some college ability an athletic scholarship is great. But there are too many meatheads on college campuses taking up space and scholarship money simply because they can do something with a ball that could be used by people who actually want an education to put to use in their professional lives.
 

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We called one our buddies "The Professor" because he shouldn't have been there but could catch a football. He knew it, too. I taught him Algebra. Not Calculus, nor pre-Calculus. Basic Algebra...the FOIL method and whatnot.
 

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Shit man I'm taking calculus and I haven't taken algebra in 7 years. i dont remember my algebra so Im having to relearn as I go.
 

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My biggest take away is that this is just another situation where the privileged have a huge advantage that is rarely discussed. Meanwhile day in and day out we hear about welfare moms cheating the system and the horrors of white dudes losing jobs to under qualified black guys.

Legacy admissions are an interesting topic for me -- when I was applying I hated them, but now I don't mind the thought for my little buddy one day.

I knew a couple legacies who were actually really smart people; in fact, I knew more football players that shouldn't have been there than legacies.
That's a whole other can of worms of course. IMO the US is far too obsessed with sports.
 

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IMO this is low on the totem pole when you consider how severely broken our collegiate system is.
Yes and no. Something like this could be used to finally hit the reset button, you know? Alumni have WAY too much power, and this is one aspect that everyone will get behind. This then becomes the lever that we pull to break the alumni power, which also has its tentacles wrapped around sports, too.

Don't always have to win the fight with a sledgehammer. Sometime a scalpel will suffice.
 

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Yes and no. Something like this could be used to finally hit the reset button, you know? Alumni have WAY too much power, and this is one aspect that everyone will get behind. This then becomes the lever that we pull to break the alumni power, which also has its tentacles wrapped around sports, too.

Don't always have to win the fight with a sledgehammer. Sometime a scalpel will suffice.
Alumni support/pressure is what drives the sports system. All in all it's a pointless thing, adding sports to colleges. The point of a college is to educate young people, but now one of the primary goals is to field strong athletic teams to entertain alumni and impress potential students.

Do we even need college sports at all?
 

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Yes and no. Something like this could be used to finally hit the reset button, you know? Alumni have WAY too much power, and this is one aspect that everyone will get behind. This then becomes the lever that we pull to break the alumni power, which also has its tentacles wrapped around sports, too.

Don't always have to win the fight with a sledgehammer. Sometime a scalpel will suffice.
I am not against action. I just think this is a lower priority than financing or how costs keep rising. But sure, it's all related
 

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If you take away the endowments, then you have that many fewer kids who get need-based tuition assistance, and then the poor don't go to school and their children don't get alumni benefits. Getting rid of endowments would result in only the rich being able to go to school.
 

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If you take away the endowments, then you have that many fewer kids who get need-based tuition assistance, and then the poor don't go to school and their children don't get alumni benefits. Getting rid of endowments would result in only the rich being able to go to school.
What % of alumni donations pay for need based tuition? Also I don't think getting rid of legacy programs would reduce donations too much.
 

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What % of alumni donations pay for need based tuition? Also I don't think getting rid of legacy programs would reduce donations too much.
I'm sure it differs for every university, but it's hard to deny that endowments make it possible for people who can't afford to go. Legacy programs are an incentive to donate. You might think that they wouldn't affect donations too much, but it's not like you've really studied the issue. I would let the universities decide how effective the schools are at raising their endowments. Incidentally the schools you're criticizing for this practice (i.e. Harvard, Yale. etc.) have some of the largest endowments so maybe they know a thing or two about raising donations.

Either way if you don't agree with the practice then send your child somewhere else.
 

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I'm sure it differs for every university, but it's hard to deny that endowments make it possible for people who can't afford to go. Legacy programs are an incentive to donate. You might think that they wouldn't affect donations too much, but it's not like you've really studied the issue. I would let the universities decide how effective the schools are at raising their endowments. Incidentally the schools you're criticizing for this practice (i.e. Harvard, Yale. etc.) have some of the largest endowments so maybe they know a thing or two about raising donations.

Either way if you don't agree with the practice then send your child somewhere else.
That's kind of missing the point isn't it? Protesting an unfair advantage due to a person's birth by avoiding that desirable institution doesn't really accomplish anything.
 

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That's kind of missing the point isn't it? Protesting an unfair advantage due to a person's birth by avoiding that desirable institution doesn't really accomplish anything.
No it's not missing the point. These schools didn't become desirable institutions by divine proclamation. The schools operate in a free market. The people who set the standards for who get in are the people who own the business. Let the universities do what they see as best for their business and you make the purchase that maximizes the return on value you put in to it. If the practice wasn't worthwhile then any good business would drop it.
 
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